Whats wrong with the Roush Cars?????????????????????

[yatesracing]

Falling like a ton of bricks Bif what is wrong????

[mattemmy99]

THEY SUCK....Thats about all I can say right now.....THEY NEED SOME PONIES UNDER THAT HOOD....and need the right set ups....getting OLD....

[yatesracing]

I didn'y watch the race after Bif fell so fast but I did hear that Bif finally just made the top ten. Does anyone remember whats the next race ROUSH (and it is Roush's decision) will be running the FR9 engine? The guy is 70 years old ,time to retire and give somebody else a chance to get these FORDS to WIN.

BTW Bye Bye Kasey

[yatesracing]

Falling like a ton of bricks Bif what is wrong????<<<and need the right set ups>>> nothing wrong with the engine IF YOU CAN'T TURN IN THE CORNERS than no amt of H/P will help. (neither will FR9)

[DeeDee]

I didn'y watch the race after Bif fell so fast but I did hear that Bif finally just made the top ten. Does anyone remember whats the next race ROUSH (and it is Roush's decision) will be running the FR9 engine? The guy is 70 years old ,time to retire and give somebody else a chance to get these FORDS to WIN.

BTW Bye Bye Kasey
So you missed it when Kenseth went for the lead a the end. It didn't turn out very pretty with Kenseth and Gordon making contact. But he had a pretty good shot at winning. It was an exciting finish ~IMO


Gordon, Kenseth left to point fingers at Martinsville
Late-race tangle part of drivers' history with one another
By Joe Menzer, NASCAR.COM
March 29, 2010
07:41 PM EDT


MARTINSVILLE, Va. -- One minute they were battling for the victory in the Goody's Fast Pain Relief 500 at Martinsville Speedway.

The next, Jeff Gordon was happy to be hanging onto third place -- and Matt Kenseth was up into the outside wall, fortunate to place 18th. Neither driver was happy with the other after they tangled on the final green-white-checkered finish Monday at the half-mile track.


Gordon was leading on the final double-file restart and chose the inside starting position, with Kenseth lined up behind him in third. What happened next was disputed by the two parties involved -- but according to video replays, it appeared that Kenseth bumped Gordon, and then rode Gordon's No. 24 Chevrolet up the race track. At the earliest opportunity, Gordon darted back to the inside and gave Kenseth a little tap in return, sending Kenseth up the track and out of contention for the race win. It also appeared -- again according to the video replays -- that Kenseth overdrove his No. 17 Ford into the corner and had himself to at least partially blame for his demise.

While all that was going on, eventual race winner Denny Hamlin gave Ryan Newman a little tap himself and got by Newman's No. 39 Chevy, and then drove past the dueling cars of Gordon and Kenseth all the way to Victory Lane.

"I guess it looked like it was my fault," Kenseth said. "I did go in there and I did get into Jeff a little bit, really not that hard. I got under him and everything was fine and he just took a left as hard as he could take one and ran me down all the way into the marbles.

"So then I've got all the marbles on my rear tires and I slowed up to try to get in the corner real slow and I kind of got hit from behind and I got hit in the side and started wheel-hopping. I couldn't hang onto it when I got to [Turn] 3." (Continued) http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/cup/03/29/jgordon.mkenseth.martinsville/index.html

[DeeDee]

Final laps..... http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2010/post_race/final_laps/03/29/cup_mar_high_final.nascar/

[yatesracing]

So you missed it when Kenseth went for the lead a the end. It didn't turn out very pretty with Kenseth and Gordon making contact. But he had a pretty good shot at winning. It was an exciting finish ~IMOAfter the first few laps ,when Bif started falling back fast and so did Carl I stop watching the race. No one on the track interest me but THE FORD DRIVERS. I don't get excoting watching my Drivers being beaten I GET ANGRY and thats not good for my blood pressure. Just a small comment (being sarcastic when I say small)

WE ARE NOW THE ONLY WINLESS MANUFACTURER

[mattemmy99]

Kenseth only had a chance for that win,because HE didn't pit....I really don't see HIM beating HMS,or any RFR car beating HMS....Denny and Kyle came in,and Denny ran his butt off,and had some PONIES,and won the dang thing...just INSANE That the FORDS CAN'T COMPETE RIGHT NOW...

I AGREE ABOUT JACK NEEDING TO BE REPLACED.....ALONG WITH BOB OBSORNE....ENOUGH...unfortunately..Jack gave Carl that power,and Carl won't swith it up....ugggg~

[DeeDee]

After the first few laps ,when Bif started falling back fast and so did Carl I stop watching the race. No one on the track interest me but THE FORD DRIVERS. I don't get excoting watching my Drivers being beaten I GET ANGRY and thats not good for my blood pressure. Just a small comment (being sarcastic when I say small)

WE ARE NOW THE ONLY WINLESS MANUFACTURER

I fully understand about not wanting to get your blood pressure up. But you make it sound like Bif and Carl are the only Fords drivers. I'm just surprised to hear that. :-o and surprise you'd give up that easy.
Yes, Ford is the only winless mfg.... but we are only 6 races into the season. Give it time! It's no secret that they struggled last season, but you have to be willing to give them some time to catch up. Surely it's not gonna happen over night. ~JMO

Also .... you seem to be putting all the blame on Jack for the FR9. :~: I know it's plenty frustrating waiting for the new engine, but hey would you rather it be used now when it's apparently not ready vs wait until they get all the bugs out of it? Jack isn't going anywhere any time soon. ~again JMO

[yatesracing]

I fully understand about not wanting to get your blood pressure up. But you make it sound like Bif and Carl are the only Fords drivers. I'm just surprised to hear that. :-o and surprise you'd give up that easy.
Yes, Ford is the only winless mfg.... but we are only 6 races into the season. Give it time! It's no secret that they struggled last season, but you have to be willing to give them some time to catch up. Surely it's not gonna happen over night. ~JMO

Also .... you seem to be putting all the blame on Jack for the FR9. :~: I know it's plenty frustrating waiting for the new engine, but hey would you rather it be used now when it's apparently not ready vs wait until they get all the bugs out of it? Jack isn't going anywhere any time soon. ~again JMO
first I haven't been a particular fan of any FORD DRIVER but a fan of ALL FORD DRIVERS. I may sound like THREE TOP ROUSH DRIVERS are my favorite but I am using these three because they are in the chase. It has been 42 races and 3 races have been one by FORD. One due to rain one at CA. and I still think it was luck at Dega. Not a good record and so far,not much of a promise there will be a breakout soon. JMO and i have been wrong (wishing this is one of those times)

Now about Roush and FR9 Engine. He is making all the decision when this will be used. I haven't any doubt about that. All I have read by Both Doug and Roush "They want to make sure about the reliability of an Engine during a race" Well there isn't any better way to find out than to race the darn Engine. Another reason they have come up with , they are lacking parts for this NEW ENGINE. Maybe so. In the past they have told us a few times about using the NEW ENGINE but they have changed their minds, which makes you wonder. To many excuses.

Remenber last year Roush saying he was going to look into the new cooling system that Hendricks was using. That sure died out. Why, because he cost big money. Jack doesn't like to spend money.

I REALLY want to know why all this stalling tactic ---Makes You Wonder!!!!!!!!!!

[TeamBlueOval]

Trust me on this one, if Jack Roush wasn't keen on spending a LOT of money, he wouldn't be running one of the best teams in NASCAR.

I think things are showing signs of improvement this year over last year for sure... I'm hoping to see some FORDS in Victory Lane very soon! :)

[yatesracing]

trust me on this one, if jack roush wasn't keen on spending a lot of money, he wouldn't be running one of the best teams in nascar.

I think things are showing signs of improvement this year over last year for sure... I'm hoping to see some fords in victory lane very soon! :)me too

[yatesracing]

<<<Trust me on this one, if Jack Roush wasn't keen on spending a LOT of money, he wouldn't be running one of the best teams in NASCAR>>> Look I love my FORDS buttttttttt where in the world did you come up with this conclusion. I'll go with the comment BEST DRIVER IN NASCAR BY FAR but as TEAMS GO I don't see it. When they can compete with the other teams on the track and not be the only teams not to have won a race so far welllllllll. I guess DeeDee was right ,it is only 6 races but than we are talking FORDS and not to have won a race so far-- BAD. FORDS are whipping butts in other series but Nascar.

BTW Andrew when FORD bring the Mustangs into the NW series will FORD be running with the same engines ftrom 2009. If they do, they will give MUSTANG a bad name because Toys and Chevies will still out race us.

[TeamBlueOval]

Yes, the Mustangs will continue with the current Nationwide engine.

Roush Fenway Racing is one of the best in NASCAR. They haven't shown it in 2009/10, but the team is still very solid. Look at some past years -- 2003 (Championship), 2004 (Championship), 2005 (5 in Chase), 2008 (9 wins for the 99)... all years when Roush Racing put on some great performances.

[yatesracing]

Yes, the Mustangs will continue with the current Nationwide engine.

Roush Fenway Racing is one of the best in NASCAR. They haven't shown it in 2009/10, but the team is still very solid. Look at some past years -- 2003 (Championship), 2004 (Championship), 2005 (5 in Chase), 2008 (9 wins for the 99)... all years when Roush Racing put on some great performances.There we go Apples and Oranges.

How many cars does Roush have in the NW series, 3 or 4 and what do they expect the MUSTANG to create MIRACLES
well i sure hope so.

[TeamBlueOval]

Roush has 4 cars in the Nationwide Series (6, 16, 60, and 98). The cars are pretty good every week, especially Carl. They don't need a miracle, just a small improvement would be great... again, though, the COT is going to come down to who figures out how to set it up the fastest. Hendrick figured that out in Cup. We'll see who it will be in Nationwide.

[#1 fan]

Ya know.. I think what Roush's problem is that Jamie's not there anymore to test the stuff for them :P Just my opinion.. but in all seriousness.. if something Jamie used worked.. the next week they used it.. if it didn't work... It hurt Jamie...

[TeamBlueOval]

I'm not a fan of people who try to claim that Jack Roush purposely sabotaged Jamie's equipment to make the other cars better. Clearly, that was NOT anyone's goal. The goal for Jamie and the 26 team was to be fast and competitive every week. No one was out to get Jamie, no one was "giving him the leftovers" or "test stuff." He had the same stuff as everyone else...

Personally, I think claiming equipment problems and sabotage are just convenient excuses for why Jamie did NOT perform at Roush.

That's my opinion! And, really, none of it matters anymore because Jamie is gone from RFR...


EDIT:...I just re-read this, and maybe it's a little severe... I like Jamie, and I think he's a good driver... BUT, I think it's ridiculous to assert that Jack Roush wasn't giving him the best possible equipment every week. NO ONE was trying to stop Jamie from succeeding; it just didn't work out...

[#1 fan]

It's all good Andrew... Heck.. Jamie won at 'Dega... last year.. and yes he is gone... I'm glad he's back at Ganassi.. and that's not anything against Roush..